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« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2017, 06:58:55 AM »

Panda remains the sole leader with a fairly easy win over fellow  Sekiwake Natsunoyama.  Three of the five pursuers hail from STI: Rando, Chisha and Gary.  Special mentions to Scott and Chisha for fine 8-pointers today.

No yusho possibilities in Juryo or Makushita.  And Hal fell to a losing record.  Hope he manages some damage control so he can try again for promotion to the big leagues in July.

Panda will be the top-ranked player in July whatever happens, but it remains to be seen whether it will be as an ozeki or sekiwake.  Scott needs one win and Jan needs two wins to stay in sanyaku.  Sekiwake beckons for Scott if the sleek machine can pull something out of the bag.  Ganzo and Renaud will have chances of sanyaku promotion if they win out as it looks as though quite a few slots will be available.  There will be no other promotions or demotions for STI.

Day 13 Standings:

   Rank         Wins      Points      AADs      Opp AADs      10      8+      5-      TB      TB+      Who?      SG shikona   
   WS2      10-3      95-86      11      8      0      6      1      4      2      Simon      Pandaazuma   
   EK2      6-7      90-92      8      9      0      3      1      4      2      Jan      Kuroimori   
   WK2      7-6      96-92      10      9      0      8      1      5      2      Scott      Haidouzo   
   WM3      6-7      88-88      8      7      0      3      1      4      1      Renaud      Kotononami   
   EM5      6-7      84-92      5      8      0      5      4      5      4      Eric      Sebunshu   
   EM6      8-5      92-87      9      7      1      7      2      7      4      Alexander      Ganzohnesushi   
   WM6      6-7      90-88      8      8      0      4      0      5      2      Douglas      ScreechingOwl   
   WM8      9-4      92-84      9      5      0      4      2      1      1      Sergio      Chishafuwaku   
   EM10      7-6      89-90      6      8      0      5      2      1      1      Rupert      Rupatengu   
   WM12      9-4      91-90      8      9      0      3      1      7      5      Juergen      Randomitsuki   
   WM13      9-4      94-87      9      7      0      6      2      2      1      Gary      Chocshoporyu   
   EM16      7-6      92-89      7      7      0      3      1      4      1      Miyako      Chankoyama   
   *                                                                     
   EJ2      5-8      81-86      5      7      0      2      4      4      2      Hal      Chisaiyama   
   WJ3      4-9      80-85      4      5      0      3      4      4      1      Seisset      Hakubayama   
   WJ6      7-6      94-88      9      7      0      6      1      3      1      Mark      Fujiyama   
   EJ10      7-6      89-89      8      7      0      5      2      3      2      Ronnie      Gawasukotto   
   *                                                                     
   Wms6      5-8      88-89      8      8      0      3      1      6      2      Stefan      Sagi   
   Ems26      8-5      93-95      11      11      0      5      1      7      6      Mari      Toriazuma   
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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2017, 07:08:41 AM »

Glad this basho is drawing to a close...I've been sick every day since shonichi (although I've been a little better in week two) and I'm really drained with the sumo on top of a busy work schedule.  Fortunately it looks as though the effort will be worth it with multiple (and I mean multiple) options for Masters points.  A decent couple of days could well see Randomitsuki's Masters points record (108.17 in Aki 2013) under threat.  Of course we all know something will go wrong but even with a bad couple of days, I should be scoring very well and a second straight Green Mawashi looks extremely likely at this stage.

Today wasn't a great day but I did manage to win Quad, TTT, SG and Bench.  I'd have won Toto too but inexplicably selected Chiyoshoma in Toto when my system selected Yoshikaze - I even had Yoshi in SG!  That cost me a 10-3 record.  Yep, I'm an idiot - but this tiredness and illness is starting to let errors creep in.  Not much I could do with Scott's line-up in the Baka Cup with Kagayaki in my team so I'll be hoping to draw it level tomorrow to make it an exciting 7-7 on senshuraku again!

Last but not least, I have the 31 wins in three basho in SG but I suspect that will not be enough for promotion to ozeki.  I think if I manage 11 wins and at least a jun yusho and/or ginosho, that might swing things for me.  I want one more win anyway because if I get 11, I'll need only 8 in July for a guaranteed promotion.

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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2017, 10:13:50 AM »

I've been sick, too.  Thankfully, the Machine is immune. Smiley
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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2017, 03:27:24 PM »

Also looking at 2 withdrawn rikishi and three intra-squad bouts in Bench for day 14, so... 5-man GBL or bust!
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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2017, 05:51:43 PM »

That was a Black Friday. Lost in every daily game. Pre-basho games also went below par, so it was one of the worst ever.

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« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2017, 05:28:41 AM »

Panda won again and now only Flohru can realistically stop him...although Chisha has a mathematical chance - very unlikely for him though.  Rupe got his winning record today but Jan, Seb and Renaud sadly fell to MK.  Special mention to Owl for getting the only 9 of the day!  Remarkable.

With between four and six sanyaku being demoted (including Kuroimori), there are real options for Ganzo, especially if he can win tomorrow, to return to the elite of the elite.  Scott will need to beat Chisha tomorrow - it will be the difference between sekiwake and maegashira in July.

Day 14 Standings:

   Rank         Wins      Points      AADs      Opp AADs      10      8+      5-      TB      TB+      Who?      SG shikona   
   WS2      11-3      101-92      11      8      0      6      1      5      3      Simon      Pandaazuma   
   EK2      6-8      97-99      9      10      0      3      1      5      2      Jan      Kuroimori   
   WK2      7-7      102-99      10      10      0      8      1      5      2      Scott      Haidouzo   
   WM3      6-8      94-94      8      7      0      3      1      5      1      Renaud      Kotononami   
   EM5      6-8      91-99      6      9      0      5      4      6      4      Eric      Sebunshu   
   EM6      9-5      99-93      10      7      1      7      2      7      4      Alexander      Ganzohnesushi   
   WM6      7-7      99-95      9      9      0      5      0      5      2      Douglas      ScreechingOwl   
   WM8      10-4      98-89      9      5      0      4      2      1      1      Sergio      Chishafuwaku   
   EM10      8-6      96-95      7      8      0      5      2      1      1      Rupert      Rupatengu   
   WM12      9-5      97-97      8      10      0      3      1      7      5      Juergen      Randomitsuki   
   WM13      9-5      100-94      9      8      0      6      2      2      1      Gary      Chocshoporyu   
   EM16      7-7      98-95      7      7      0      3      1      5      1      Miyako      Chankoyama   
   *                                                                     
   EJ2      5-9      89-94      6      8      0      3      4      5      2      Hal      Chisaiyama   
   WJ3      5-9      87-92      5      6      0      3      4      5      2      Seisset      Hakubayama   
   WJ6      7-7      100-96      9      8      0      6      1      3      1      Mark      Fujiyama   
   EJ10      7-7      96-96      9      8      0      5      2      4      2      Ronnie      Gawasukotto   
   *                                                                     
   Wms6      6-8      94-93      8      8      0      3      1      6      2      Stefan      Sagi   
   Ems26      9-5      99-99      11      11      0      5      1      7      6      Mari      Toriazuma   
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« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2017, 05:31:01 AM »

I hate these damned upset days - they almost always screw me.  Managed to get vital wins in ISP, TTT and SG but everything else was rubbish.  To balance things a bit, I had a nice bump in Bingo up to fourth.  I'm still scoring very well indeed but it looks like a good day tomorrow will be required for me to challenge Rando's Masters record.

Oh, and I won the Baka Cup bout to get us back to 7-7 again!  Is Scott going to bottle it??

GAMBARIMASU!!
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« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2017, 06:53:39 AM »

One of my favorite upsides of the Machine is that I really don't like THIS much tension on senshuraku!

Picked the wrong guy in two of my three intra-squad bouts in Bench for... 3 points and MK.  Still, even a 6-9 (if I lose again) from M5 is safe.  A good score on a bad day in DST sees me ONE POINT behind 10th place, alone in 11th.  I CAN SMELL THE POINTS!  Won in ISP to be in the herd tied for 6th.  I'd probably be mistaken if I said I don't think I've ever gotten points in ISP, but it sure feels that way.  14-point yusho lead in Odd--clearly my best possibility for points, and it would be a lovely first yusho.  Won again in Quad to move up to a tie for... 12th.  (And I didn't mention a week ago that I finished Chaingang tied for... 11th.  Not liking this trend.)  A sad double miss in Toto for 6-8 that's still inside the technical-banzuke-KK range (most likely) so a win would mostly be nice to avoid kadoban.  And a massive 31 points from Tochinoshin in TUG propels me into 2nd place there.

And the lowlight of the basho marches on.  Now six straight losses in Toto, for 4-10.  How in the world I can score the most points in SG for STI and be 4-10 in Toto with the same prediction engine... I'm not sure I'll ever understand.

Sanyaku status and the Baka Cup on the line, all on one bout?  Against a 10-4 Chisha and an 11-3 Panda?  (Fine, I'll focus on my 2-0 record against Chisha the past year Smiley )

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« Reply #53 on: May 28, 2017, 04:01:07 AM »

Panda lost to a quite frankly insane line-up from Norizo, who I am convinced was taking the piss - go take a look at the utter idiots and injured lads he picked (and the likely winners he avoided) and got nine points with!  It didn't matter in the end because Flohru collapsed with a 3-pointer and Chisha lost, despite picking well, to Scott.  So it's a third Makuuchi yusho for the Panda.  Ozeki promotion is still uncertain as there is no precedent...but it is possible after a jun yusho and yusho facing most of the sanyaku in every basho of the run...as well as 32 wins in three basho and some good scoring too.  If Panda is not promoted, he'll need 8 in Nagoya for a certain promotion.  The current lack of an ozeki may also weigh in favour of promotion.

Jan beat Rando out of some Masters points to limit the damage but he'll be back in Maegashira next time.  Scott will be a sekiwake along with Gurowake (and perhaps the Panda too).  Congrats!  The misery continued for Renaud and Seb as they fell to limp 6-9 records.  Ganzo has a chance of komusubi promotion after a fine 10-5 finish.  Owl walked into another insane line-up and went MK.  Chisha lost as earlier mentioned but gets a nice J next to his name along with Ganzo.  Rupert won but Rando and Gary lost...all three go 9-6.  Sadly Chankoyama lost again but should be safe with 7 wins.

Juryo was a wipe-out and everyone goes MK.  Nightmare.  Stefan finished 6-9 but he won't mind after winning the Fantasy Sumo yusho!  And Mari's hard-luck basho went to the final day and she finished with a very creditable 9-6.

So Panda is ozeki or top sekiwake. Scott is sekiwake.  Ganzo may be komusubi.  And Jan is back in the Maegashira ranks.  That's about it on the banzuke front.

See you all in July!

Final Standings:

   Rank         Wins      Points      AADs      Opp AADs      10      8+      5-      TB      TB+      Who?      SG shikona   
   WS2      11-4Y      106-101      11      9      0      6      2      5      3      Simon      Pandaazuma   
   EK2      7-8      102-104      10      10      0      3      1      5      2      Jan      Kuroimori   
   WK2      8-7      108-105      11      11      0      8      1      6      3      Scott      Haidouzo   
   WM3      6-9      97-100      8      8      0      3      2      5      1      Renaud      Kotononami   
   EM5      6-9      95-104      6      9      0      5      5      6      4      Eric      Sebunshu   
   EM6      10-5J      104-98      10      7      1      7      3      8      5      Alexander      Ganzohnesushi   
   WM6      7-8      104-103      9      10      0      5      1      5      2      Douglas      ScreechingOwl   
   WM8      10-5J      104-95      10      6      0      4      2      2      1      Sergio      Chishafuwaku   
   EM10      8-6      103-100      8      8      0      5      2      1      1      Rupert      Rupatengu   
   WM12      9-6      102-103      8      11      0      3      2      7      5      Juergen      Randomitsuki   
   WM13      9-6      105-99      9      8      0      6      3      3      1      Gary      Chocshoporyu   
   EM16      7-8      102-101      7      8      0      3      2      5      1      Miyako      Chankoyama   
   *                                                                     
   EJ2      6-9      93-98      6      8      0      3      5      6      3      Hal      Chisaiyama   
   WJ3      5-10      91-97      5      6      0      3      5      5      2      Seisset      Hakubayama   
   WJ6      7-8      104-100      9      8      0      6      2      4      1      Mark      Fujiyama   
   EJ10      7-8      101-102      9      8      0      5      3      4      2      Ronnie      Gawasukotto   
   *                                                                     
   Wms6      6-9      99-100      8      9      0      3      2      6      2      Stefan      Sagi   
   Ems26      9-6      104-106      11      12      0      5      2      7      6      Mari      Toriazuma   
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« Reply #54 on: May 28, 2017, 04:08:39 AM »

First of all, a hearty congratulations to Scott on finally getting that Baka Cup out of his basement.  I'm glad I made it a contest after being 1-5 down but Scott deserved it.  I was torn today between trusting Hokutofuji and Takakeisho for the two idiots I picked against supposedly injured lads - I'd have won if I had done so - but there you go.  My bad picking so Scott should get the win for better picking.  And indeed a better score!  I am relieved he is at sekiwake next time too...a MK would have been a travesty with his scoring this time.

I had a very good basho and may break the 100 mark - not quite sure yet.  I currently have 71.32 points with scores yet to come in from UDH (likely top three), Salarycap (possible top 5), Norizo (top ten) and Hoshitori (zero points).  If things go better than expected, 100 should be OK...but I won't be breaking Rando's record - and it could well be Taka's pick of Tamawashi in ISP that does it - I lost 8.75 points through that debacle.  I actually fancied Tamawashi and would have picked him if I hadn't been leading, but I bottled it, thinking almost everyone would be picking that idiot Goeido.  Serves me right for being a wuss!  Still, I'll have a great score - my best ever - and I've eliminated Susanoo's lead and indeed will be ahead by quite a few points.  I also did very well overall so should get a major jump up the Superbanzuke next time.

Glad it's all over...work, illness and sumo do not make a good combination.  See you in the summer!
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« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2017, 06:37:44 AM »

My highlights for this basho are few and far between, but how bright they can be!

The Odd yusho is the only points standout at all.  So happy about this one--I've been waiting for the Odd Engine to pay off.  Points-wise, I won in Quad to land in a 13-way tie for 8th.  A laughable 0.46 points to go along with the absolutely hilarious 0.07 points from my 15-way tie for 10th in ISP (after having seriously learned my lesson and trusting the Machine when it picked Goeido and I thought I knew better).  Also finished 12th in DST, which I'll just have to accept as a fine yusho defense performance.

Oh well.  15.53 may well be a stronger score than usual this basho, especially with Panda hoarding so many of the points!  (Not to mention a certain Cup that is well overdue for a transcontinental journey!)  (And which is surely the other true highlight of my basho.)

The pre-bashos turned mostly unmentionable.  Just dropped out of the top 10 in Juryo Game.  Probably just dropped out of the top 10 in Norizo Cup.  Looks like everything else is 6-9... or worse.

I'll be happy at sekiwake in SG, and I'll hope my top-50% 6-9 in TTT is good enough for a technical KK to stay kadoban-free.

See you in July!
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2017, 10:49:15 PM »

Zero as expected in Hoshitori.  2nd place and 12 Masters points in UDH.  And 5 points in Norizo.  With only Salarycap to come in, I have 88.32 points.  I'm glad the ISP mess won't mess up my record bid.  As it turns out, I will be lucky to make the top ten in Salarycap as I assumed that Takayasu would get jun yusho and Terunofuji wouldn't.  As the opposite has occurred, my expectations are greatly reduced.  If I make 90+, I'll be surprised.  But my record before today was around 80 points (and I didn't even win the Green in that basho) so it's nice to raise the bar.  One day I'd love to break the 100 mark.

Susanoo has around 22 points so I should be about 15 or 16 points ahead in the World Championship standings with around 165 points or so.  That's a 300+ pace so I want to keep that going if possible.

GAMBARIMASU!  Until next basho!
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