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« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2017, 11:33:17 AM »

After two consecutive disastrous Basho Haru finally can be seen as a U-turn. Of course some bad results can be expected again but otoh a few games look very promising.  RotoSumo, Fantasy, Hoshitori and Bench are suffering from Hakuho/Goeido kyujo plus bad pre-basho selection (Ichionojo, Myogiryu). But in Toto I'm in the driving seat with 7-2 and I'm leader in ISP with an incredible 9-0 record so far. Few more chances to grab some SB points are Oracle, S4, TTT and Juryo Game. Moreover, in SG, UDH and DST I'm not too far away from the top 10 ranks.

Hope I can avoid ther usual collapse in the remaining days to end up with some 40+ SB points.

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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2017, 03:42:47 AM »

Jan and Scott fell to defeat today, Jan in rather unfortunate fashion - meeting a strong line-up.  Panda is now the only 9-1 STI lad along with two other bods.  Takanosushi is about four points ahead so I'll need him especially to lose a couple.  And a 14-1 yusho line is not impossible.

In other news, Owl finally got a win in a very bad-luck basho for him. Gary gets his 10th AAD out of ten and really deserves a better record than 5-5. Speaking of bad luck, Rando walked into one of the day's very few 9s and is also very unlucky to only be 5-5 after excellent scoring.  Renaud lost against his 9th AAD opponent too.  So we've not had much luck.

Hal won again in Juryo and is really stretching the field.  Everyone else is grinding their way hopefully to winning records.

Day 10 Standings:

   Rank         Wins      Points      AADs      Opp AADs      10      8+      5-      TB      TB+      Who?      SG shikona   
   EK1      4-6      66-68      5      8      0      1      2      1      1      Eric      Sebunshu   
   EM2      3-7      71-70      7      7      0      4      1      5      0      Douglas      ScreechingOwl   
   WM2      6-4      72-73      8      9      0      4      0      4      3      Renaud      Kotononami   
   WM3      4-6      71-75      8      8      0      5      1      1      1      Rupert      Rupatengu   
   WM4      8-2      71-65      7      6      0      4      0      3      3      Scott      Haidouzo   
   WM5      8-2      70-69      9      7      0      2      1      5      5      Jan      Kuroimori   
   EM6      9-1      71-66      7      4      0      3      0      3      3      Simon      Pandaazuma   
   WM6      5-5      69-69      6      6      0      3      1      5      3      Alexander      Ganzohnesushi   
   EM12      5-5      71-71      10      7      0      2      0      4      2      Gary      Chocshoporyu   
   EM13      6-4      68-66      6      5      0      2      1      4      2      Sergio      Chishafuwaku   
   EM14      5-5      73-71      7      7      0      3      0      4      2      Juergen      Randomitsuki   
   *                                                                     
   WJ1      4-6      66-67      5      6      0      1      1      1      1      Seisset      Hakubayama   
   EJ2      5-5      63-70      3      5      0      1      0      4      3      Miyako      Chankoyama   
   EJ10      6-4      69-69      7      6      0      3      2      3      2      Mark      Fujiyama   
   WJ11      6-4      68-68      6      6      0      2      1      2      1      Ronnie      Gawasukotto   
   WJ13      9-1      67-62      7      3      0      1      0      5      5      Hal      Chisaiyama   
   *                                                                     
   Wms10      5-5      66-65      6      5      0      5      3      2      1      Stefan      Sagi   
   Wms21      5-5      69-66      6      5      0      3      0      1      0      Jezz      Jejima   
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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2017, 03:49:22 AM »

Well I got the important win to go 9-1 in SG...the other dailies are mostly write-offs anyway.  I am somehow 5-5 in Bench (after a 0-4 start) with a team of utter morons.  TTT is basically a case of staving off MK every day now but I 'improved' to 3-7 today.  A poor loss in Toto and everything else was crap.

In the pre-basho games I am still in the running for Hoshitori, Salarycap, Oracle and Norizo.  Everything else has been eviscerated by either Hak, Goeido or Ikioi/Takanoiwa.  I can still score fairly well in the Masters but yusho or jun yusho are now mandatory for those as there are so few I have a chance in.

Oh...and 6-4 in the Baka Cup.  Two more to go!

Speaking of Scott, a cursory glance tells me he had a bit of a nightmare in the games today, especially absolutely flying out of the Japanese doppelganger games!  27 Masters points evaporated!  He'll be hoping for comebacks in those.

Susanoo tomorrow in SG and he's always tricky, as Kuroimori found out today.  He picks more on feeling than the other top players so I'll have to bear that in mind!

GAMBARIMASU!
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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2017, 07:01:25 AM »

Well, I finally ran outta SG-luck after a few veeeeery lucky improbable last minute wins. But nothing's lost in my best bet for Masters points this basho.
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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2017, 09:41:38 AM »

I've had better days, but it wasn't a complete nightmare.  The loss in SG was well earned, especially when the Machine puts Tochinoshin at about 74% to win.  (Though, to be fair to myself, my opponent also had him in 4th position.)  This also puts me at a creepy 0-4 head-to-head record against Kogaratsu.  Anyway, 8-2 is still an exceptional score, and a yusho is not out of the question, but probably not without at least 4 more wins.

Also edged out in Bench 10-9, but even a ganbarized lineup on my part still would have lost on the 10-10 tiebreak.  6-4 still isn't bad there.  Another miss in ISP for 5-5.  The misplaced Tochinoshin love leads to another loss in TTT for 4-6, which is a tie well outside the top 10, but still keeps me in the top half on the board so far, to (presumably) keep my Ozeki status safe.

But somehow the trend is broken with another win in Toto for 6-4 and a spot rather near the top 10.  Also turning things around in Quad, with a similarly well positioned 6-4 there.  Sat out the day in Odd, and still in 3rd to show for it.  But the day's highlight is surely a 14-point day in DST to take the sole yusho lead.

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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2017, 04:36:50 AM »

All three STI leaders lost today. Some bizarre picking from Jan, actually - putting Mitakeumi at 2 and also risking Takayasu against a yokozuna.  Scott had a bad day at the office and Owl took advantage.  Gary keeps up the sterling work with an outstanding 9 to keep his perfect AAD streak intact.  Rando is also scoring very well and got a vital sixth win today too.  Renaud's bad luck continues despite his fine scoring.

Hal also fell to a loss in a limp 5-6 battle.  Hope he hasn't lost his mojo for the final run-in.

Day 11 Standings:

   Rank         Wins      Points      AADs      Opp AADs      10      8+      5-      TB      TB+      Who?      SG shikona   
   EK1      4-7      72-75      5      9      0      1      2      1      1      Eric      Sebunshu   
   EM2      4-7      71-70      7      7      0      4      1      5      0      Douglas      ScreechingOwl   
   WM2      6-5      79-81      9      10      0      4      0      4      3      Renaud      Kotononami   
   WM3      4-7      76-82      8      9      0      5      2      1      1      Rupert      Rupatengu   
   WM4      8-3      76-71      7      6      0      4      1      3      3      Scott      Haidouzo   
   WM5      8-3      76-76      9      8      0      2      1      5      5      Jan      Kuroimori   
   EM6      9-2      79-75      8      5      0      4      0      3      3      Simon      Pandaazuma   
   WM6      6-5      76-75      7      6      0      3      1      5      3      Alexander      Ganzohnesushi   
   EM12      6-5      80-79      11      8      0      3      0      4      2      Gary      Chocshoporyu   
   EM13      7-4      75-72      7      5      0      2      1      4      2      Sergio      Chishafuwaku   
   EM14      6-5      81-77      8      7      0      4      0      4      2      Juergen      Randomitsuki   
   *                                                                     
   WJ1      5-6      73-74      6      7      0      1      1      2      2      Seisset      Hakubayama   
   EJ2      5-6      70-77      4      6      0      1      0      5      3      Miyako      Chankoyama   
   EJ10      7-4      77-75      8      6      0      4      2      3      2      Mark      Fujiyama   
   WJ11      6-5      76-77      7      7      0      3      1      2      1      Ronnie      Gawasukotto   
   WJ13      9-2      72-68      7      3      0      1      1      5      5      Hal      Chisaiyama   
   *                                                                     
   Wms10      6-5      74-72      7      6      0      6      3      2      1      Stefan      Sagi   
   Wms21      5-6      75-73      6      6      0      3      0      1      0      Jezz      Jejima   
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« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2017, 04:44:31 AM »

OK, I had pretty much the working definition of insanely bad luck today.  I did my part, scoring an 8 and having the 8th best line-up of the day.  Naturally, I run into the best line-up of the division - Susanoo's 9 - which included an absolutely baffling Daieisho pick against Nishikigi (the head-to-head is 0-4).  I mean, OK...Nishi is rubbish and Daieisho has been good this basho, but Nishi actually looked OK the last two days and there were several easier picks on paper.  But he got away with it.  Meanwhile, one of my rivals scored poorly but came up against Gaijingai, who not only missed the Takakeisho henka but also picked Tochinoshin - the incredible one-legged man - and Tamawashi (who has looked awful) against Shohozan, who is 10-1 up on him.  Now 11-1.  I mean, that's just idiotic picking.  So both my rivals won but I get the insane Susanoo picks that paid off for once.  Pretty gutted about how that worked out.

I took a big hit in Norizo today as well as my lads all lost so that may be a goner Masters-wise.  My options are rapidly disappearing so will need a strong finish.  Oracle and Salarycap remain the best pre-basho options, with slight chances in Hoshitori too.

Gambarimasu!
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« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2017, 04:45:40 AM »

At least I slaughtered Scott in the Baka Cup to go 7-4!  One more win for glory!
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« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2017, 06:34:51 AM »

Thanks Simon.

How screwy is this basho? I'm shutting my eyes and sticking pins in the banzuke from here on in!
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« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2017, 07:02:36 AM »

Susanoo's 9 - which included an absolutely baffling Daieisho pick against Nishikigi (the head-to-head is 0-4).  I mean, OK...Nishi is rubbish and Daieisho has been good this basho, but Nishi actually looked OK the last two days and there were several easier picks on paper.  But he got away with it.
The Machine also didn't have Daieisho as a top-10 pick (more like 13th), so I'm with you on there being "easier picks," but it did place him as the 4-pointer in DST, where he earned 52 points to Nishikigi's 98 out of everyone's bets...

...on the way to another perfect day in DST for me, and now a 7-point yusho lead.  We'll see if it holds.

The previously mentioned loss in SG is bizarre, frustrating, and disappointing, since Odd is the only other game I "lost" this day (slipping into 5th).  Onward and upward in Bench (a comical but acceptable 5-3 win), ISP, Quad, Toto, and TTT, for 7-4, 6-5, 7-4 (tied for 9th), 7-4 (tied for 6th), and 5-6, respectively.

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« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2017, 07:13:17 AM »

Thanks Simon.

How screwy is this basho? I'm shutting my eyes and sticking pins in the banzuke from here on in!

Yeah, as Ronnie says, this is a crazy basho!  I'm greatly regretting not having the courage of my convictions pre-basho...I'd looked at the banzuke and thought it was a lottery with the changing of the guard and so I thought I might as well just pick the lads I like.  I also predicted a Kisenosato yusho (with Takayasu doing well).  So I should have had Kise in all the games too.  My original draft of main picks included Chiyoshoma, Takakeisho and Chiyonokuni and left out the likes of Aoiyama and Tochinoshin.  In fairness, I'd have also left out Tochiozan and Terunofuj so it wouldn't have been perfect but at least I wouldn't be rock bottom of some of the games.

Just had a look through the Masters and it's absolutely all over the place.  The top gamers are mostly all at sea so there is not much going around.  Scott is doing well despite flying out of Bingo and PO...he is still projected to hit 40 points.  Susanoo should get 30+, mainly due to his GTB jun yusho along with good play in Quad and Toto, although those two are the only ones he can score big in so if he screws them up, he could end up with very little.  Owl is in quite a few games and could do well with a strong finish.  He's currently projected to score 25-30 points.  Panda - like Susanoo - could well end up with 30+ but it will massively depend on the end performances of the very few games I am in.

I can't really see any players who are miles ahead.  Rando looks to be doing OK...perhaps he could fill us in on his prospects.  I saw Ganzo's name a few times as well.
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« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2017, 02:01:40 AM »

My SG update will be late today as I am busy.  Will do it as soon as I can.

Already won SG but my rivals have also won.  I was hoping for Seb to do some spoiling but he picked total idiots like Kaisei and also Tochiozan - whose sumo has been crap all basho - in the one slot against Myogiryu, who has been superb the last three days.  I mean...wtf??  I hope to Christ I get a crack at these lads myself or I am doomed if this carries on.

Having a decent day so far in most of the games but as I'm dead in most of them it's just damage control really.

GAMBARIMASU!

[Haven't won the Baka Cup yet...let me know how that goes, Scott!]

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« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2017, 06:40:38 AM »

All three STI leaders lost today. Some bizarre picking from Jan, actually - putting Mitakeumi at 2 and also risking Takayasu against a yokozuna. 


Yeah, absolutely and welcome to this basho's edition of ***Kuroimori's Fabulous SumoGame Second Week Meltdown Galore***!
Thing is, I was travelling the whole day, got home very late and fell asleep "mid-picking", my continuing struggle with the remains of my Japan-jetlag didn't really help.
Lucky enough, I woke up 3 minutes before the SG deadline, checked the Absent Rikishi site over at NSK on my phone, and immediately switched to the SG entry page, also on my phone as there was no time to start my laptop. Beating the deadline just by a few seconds, I realized that my "no huddle" picking on my phone was a bit to hasty, leaving Mitakeumi and Takayasu in my lineup.
Well, well, well... Yesterday I prepared my picks well in advance - with the same result, putting me on a 0-3 slump.
Maybe it is case of "Yeah! Kachikoshi! Otsukare!"? I definitely have to gambarize to at least get a futaketa score.

OTOH, what a bizarre win in Bench today by "sotokomata" (over thigh scooping body drop). Felt more like winning because your opponent misses a massive harite, losing his balance and falling down on his own.
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« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2017, 06:50:02 AM »

With the exceptions of Quad (where it seems most everyone lost, as happens often as the basho nears its end) and Odd, it's a clean sweep!

That includes the Baka Cup, where a daring Shodai-in-slot-1 henka costs the tiebreak for the Panda.  KK there will have to wait for another day, as the gap closes to 7-5 in favor of Simon.  Now 9-3 for me in SG, tied for 4th, which is good for a fistful of points, but if I can manage to win out, there should be even more.  KK secured in Bench with another win.  A comfortably above-average day in DST is nice, but will cut my yusho lead down from 7 points to 4.  7-5 in ISP, which is well outside the top 10 right now, but with a miraculous streak of wins, perhaps a point or two could be had.  Missed a 1-point bet in Odd but still 5th.  A rare 4-win streak in Toto now, for 8-4 and a tie for 5th place.  In TTT, it's now 6-6 and in a large tie for 10th.  Even the loss in Quad, for 7-5, puts me in a tie for 9th.

And I'd thought the pre-basho games had turned nearly hopeless, but it seems I'm still 3rd in Salarycap after day 11 (and not counting day 7 so far, it seems).

GANBARIMASU
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« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2017, 11:51:05 PM »

Sorry this is late.

Kudos to Chankoyama for her excellent 8-points...the only one of the day.  Panda won again and is one behind the leaders in Makuuchi.  Hal is flying in Juryo!

More comments on today's update later.

Day 12 Standings:

   Rank         Wins      Points      AADs      Opp AADs      10      8+      5-      TB      TB+      Who?      SG shikona   
   EK1      4-8      77-82      5      10      0      1      3      1      1      Eric      Sebunshu   
   EM2      4-8      75-76      7      8      0      4      2      5      0      Douglas      ScreechingOwl   
   WM2      6-6      83-87      9      11      0      4      1      4      3      Renaud      Kotononami   
   WM3      4-8      80-87      8      9      0      5      3      1      1      Rupert      Rupatengu   
   WM4      9-3      82-77      8      7      0      4      1      4      4      Scott      Haidouzo   
   WM5      8-4      80-81      9      8      0      2      2      5      5      Jan      Kuroimori   
   EM6      10-2      85-80      9      5      0      4      0      3      3      Simon      Pandaazuma   
   WM6      6-6      81-81      7      7      0      3      2      5      3      Alexander      Ganzohnesushi   
   EM12      6-6      86-86      12      9      0      3      0      4      2      Gary      Chocshoporyu   
   EM13      7-5      79-79      7      6      0      2      2      4      2      Sergio      Chishafuwaku   
   EM14      7-5      87-83      9      8      0      4      0      5      3      Juergen      Randomitsuki   
   *                                                                     
   WJ1      5-7      78-80      6      8      0      1      2      2      2      Seisset      Hakubayama   
   EJ2      6-6      78-82      5      6      0      2      0      5      3      Miyako      Chankoyama   
   EJ10      7-5      82-82      8      7      0      4      3      3      2      Mark      Fujiyama   
   WJ11      6-6      81-82      7      7      0      3      2      3      1      Ronnie      Gawasukotto   
   WJ13      10-2      78-74      8      4      0      1      1      6      6      Hal      Chisaiyama   
   *                                                                     
   Wms10      6-6      79-78      7      7      0      6      4      2      1      Stefan      Sagi   
   Wms21      5-7      81-79      7      7      0      3      0      2      0      Jezz      Jejima   
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