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Question: Do you think Hakuho let Kaio win?
Duh!   -8 (42.1%)
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Asashosakari
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2011, 11:16:24 AM »
Yep, Takamiyama was 39y and 7m in his last makuuchi appearance, another 4 months older in his last juryo basho.

If I haven't overlooked anybody, the oldest makuuchi appearance in the modern era (since 1926) was by Fujinosato at 41y 1m, whom I'd never heard of until now. That's also the oldest sekitori appearance, unless one wants to count the same guy's non-competing juryo basho half a year later as its own record.

Kaio does still have one interesting contender to beat age-wise, namely Onosato who was last active as an ozeki at 39y 6m, last on the banzuke at 39y 9m, back in 1931/32. That's the combined ozeki/yokozuna record as well, as no modern-era yokozuna has been active on his 39th birthday. (Unlike several of their 19th century counterparts who competed well into their 40s, hence my general modern-era qualifier.)
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2011, 02:16:01 PM »
so I guess he still has some records to beat. Well, one at least. Smiley

And yeah, Simon, I'm a real person... or so I hope. Been hanging out on the site since January when I rediscovered my sumo passion after a ten year hiatus. I swear you guys are probably the best source of info on the subject. Respect!
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2011, 04:55:53 PM »
"Hiatus"?  Lex is gonna have to buy a dictionary!
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2011, 11:16:57 PM »
Quote from: edkaufman on June 02, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
so I guess he still has some records to beat. Well, one at least. Smiley

And yeah, Simon, I'm a real person... or so I hope. Been hanging out on the site since January when I rediscovered my sumo passion after a ten year hiatus. I swear you guys are probably the best source of info on the subject. Respect!

Haha...I'm definitely the best source of bullsheeyit!

Interesting that you rediscover your love for the sport at a time when so many are deserting it in disgust!
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2011, 03:38:47 AM »
it's a little sad: While moving, I stumbled across a couple of sumo books that I had bought back then (Maru was still an Ozeki at the time, I remember that). The Internet and youtube did the rest. It makes me a little sad that I missed Asashoryu's reign. I don't know about people leaving in disgust - I'm a sports columnist, football mostly. You look at the way the FIFA is being run, Ozumo seems very clean in comparison. Sad
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2011, 04:40:10 AM »
Quote from: edkaufman on June 03, 2011, 03:38:47 AM
it's a little sad: While moving, I stumbled across a couple of sumo books that I had bought back then (Maru was still an Ozeki at the time, I remember that). The Internet and youtube did the rest. It makes me a little sad that I missed Asashoryu's reign. I don't know about people leaving in disgust - I'm a sports columnist, football mostly. You look at the way the FIFA is being run, Ozumo seems very clean in comparison. Sad

Where do you write your columns usually?  Obviously agreed on FIFA.  I've heard the word 'cartel' used in some quarters and Blatter's frequent use of the term 'the family within' to describe FIFA, a stateless and unaccountable entity, sounds exactly like the mafia to me.  I just wish the major federations would break away...but ain't gonna happen.  Qatar World Cup?  What a fecking joke!

Yes, you really missed something with Asa - whatever you think of the lad, there's no doubt in my mind he was the best ever.  And the people who say you can't compare yokozuna from different eras can kiss my arse!
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2011, 04:44:33 AM »
By the way, Ed...now that you're back in the sumo mood, why not try Sumo Game??  Or even Bench...STI is always on the lookout for good men (and hot women).

http://www.japanguide.info/sumo/registration.html

http://www.benchsumo.net/
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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2011, 07:29:09 AM »
I write for a swiss weekly, the Wochenzeitung WOZ(www.woz.ch) - more specialised in political writing, but I was their last sports editor before they got rid of the sports page.

Agree with eyverything you say about FIFA; and the worst part is, they hardly pay any taxes. 200 Million Swiss Francs in profit last year, somewhere around 1.5 billion in assets and they pay 50'000 in taxes. It's la famiglia, allright.

thx for the pointer on the games - I joined the sumo game in january and was quite disappointed they didn't play during the natsu tournament. I'll throw an eye on bench. Doesn't sumotalk hold its own fantasy sumo as well?
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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2011, 07:40:02 AM »
Quote from: edkaufman on June 03, 2011, 07:29:09 AM
I write for a swiss weekly, the Wochenzeitung WOZ(www.woz.ch) - more specialised in political writing, but I was their last sports editor before they got rid of the sports page.

Agree with eyverything you say about FIFA; and the worst part is, they hardly pay any taxes. 200 Million Swiss Francs in profit last year, somewhere around 1.5 billion in assets and they pay 50'000 in taxes. It's la famiglia, allright.

thx for the pointer on the games - I joined the sumo game in january and was quite disappointed they didn't play during the natsu tournament. I'll throw an eye on bench. Doesn't sumotalk hold its own fantasy sumo as well?

FIFA: yes indeed!

Sumo Game should return for Nagoya and if you've registered, you should be on the banzuke to be published in the run-up to the Nagoya Basho.  What's your shikona (fighting name)?  Sumotalk does have its own game called Fantasy Sumo which is a pre-basho game and takes about 5 minutes to enter.  You should definitely have a bash at that, too.
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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2011, 08:11:01 AM »
Yujonoyama - he, I just realized there's a few swiss people in the fantasy sumo as well. I always figured I was the only one... Smiley

thy for the pointers. BTW, is there a special thread where new members are supposed to say hi?
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« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2011, 08:22:00 AM »
Quote from: edkaufman on June 03, 2011, 08:11:01 AM
Yujonoyama - he, I just realized there's a few swiss people in the fantasy sumo as well. I always figured I was the only one... Smiley

thy for the pointers. BTW, is there a special thread where new members are supposed to say hi?

No, we don't have such a thread.  Don't really need it as everyone will see your posts anyway!

Not sure how many Swiss members we have here!
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2011, 09:34:52 AM »
Now Simon, you know he has to post a 'welcome' picture to the Knockers thread! 

Smiley  Welcome aboard, Ed!
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2011, 12:32:33 PM »
Quote from: edkaufman on June 03, 2011, 07:29:09 AM
thx for the pointer on the games - I joined the sumo game in january and was quite disappointed they didn't play during the natsu tournament. I'll throw an eye on bench. Doesn't sumotalk hold its own fantasy sumo as well?
Hi ed, a list of the most popular games (members of the so-called Superbanzuke) can be found here (with rules and stuff).
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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2011, 04:31:30 PM »
Quote from: Cydrome on June 02, 2011, 04:55:53 PM
"Hiatus"?  Lex is gonna have to buy a dictionary!

Hiatus? That's a hernia, no? And Cy, I don't need no dikshonary. I already well-edumakated. I use a Scrabble set.

(Except I keep coming up with "forty-two" as the answer....) (But I not panic, yet.)

Anyway, welcome, Ed.

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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2011, 12:01:41 AM »
>>(Except I keep coming up with "forty-two" as the answer...)<<

...and thanks for all the fish!
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